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A view on extraterrestrials relating to scripture

Post by tabooXchanz on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 12:46 am

The scriptural Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Author: seventypercent

The idea of intelligent civilizations beyond the planet Earth has
always captivated Mankind. It has been romanticized by science fiction
authors, journalists, philosophers, and even spiritual leaders. But
even the most enthusiastic believers in extraterrestrial life claim that it's unlikely that we will ever know "for sure" if intelligent life exists in the Cosmos, at least in our lifetimes.
Or is it?
I believe that intelligent civilizations do
exist elsewhere in the Universe; futhermore, I believe that their
existence can be proven. And to prove it, we need to do nothing more
than turn to scripture.




The first step in this proof is to humbly bow our collective heads and
recognize that we are but lowly sinners. The sin of the woman Eve,
which cursed the world and introduced death and decay processes, is a
malady that plagues us to this day. We cannot deal with this sin alone,
nor can we hope to enter the kingdom of God without having the burden
of sin lifted from our backs. This is why God sent His son, Jesus
Christ of Nazareth, to save the planet Earth from sin. This was no
small chore; Mankind being the filthy wretches that we are, it took 33 years for Christ to accomplish his task. With His death on the cross, we were finally saved. The Kingdom of God beckons us.
The question that weighs most heavily on the mind of the devout Christian is "Where is Jesus?" The Bible clearly states that Jesus should have returned during the lifetimes of the original Apostles:

"For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's
glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to
what he has done. I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will
not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." (Matthew 16: 27-28)
When the Lord says that He's telling the truth, I believe Him. So He
should have returned by now. The only thing that could possibly keep
Him from returning to His throne here on Earth is the much more
important activity of saving others from sin. This poses the question .. which
others? If Earth has already been cleansed of sin, where else could he
possibly be? I believe that Jesus' absence, combined with the previous
scripture quote, is compelling and incontrovertible evidence that Christ is working His sin-cleansing magic on other intelligent civilizations.Now, some might suggest that saving multiple planets from sin is an
activity that can be done "in parallel"; that God is able to do them
all at once. This would imply that God has sent out multiple Jesii at
once to save other civilizations from sin. But this is a damnable
heresy since it implies that God has more than one son and that He can
send them out like common errand boys. Furthermore, if this were true,
it would mean that the cherished concept of the Holy Trinity
(One Father, One Son, and One Holy Spirit) would be false. This would
amount to a scriptural error and so therefore it cannot possibly be
true. It can thus be conclusively said that saving a planet from sin is
a job for Jesus (and Jesus alone), and that He only saves one planet as
a time, as per the time-honored teachings of scripture.So let us postulate that Christ's absence is because He is saving other
civilizations from sin. This is a job that took Him 33 years on this
planet. I believe that it is correct and just to assume that if it took
Him 33 years here, it will take Him 33 years everywhere. After all, the Lord can do no wrong; if 33 years is the required amount of time to cleanse the wretched sins of our planet, it is only logical to assume that 33 years is the standard amount of time it takes everywhere.
To assume otherwise would imply an imperfect Christ, which would amount
to heresy and a Biblical contradiction, which is a logical
impossibility. The next question we need to ask is related to
the light travel time between the Earth, Heaven, and other intelligent
civilizations in the Universe. Is God restricted by the speed of light?
If so, then the figure of 33 years per civilization needs to be
increased appropriately. However, I think the answer to this question
is quite plainly "no"; after all, God does not live on the Moon or in the Orion Nebula. He lives in His heavenly kingdom, and all that He needs to do is to will His son into the womb of a virgin. It doesn't matter if that virgin lives on Earth, or if she lives on a planet orbiting Mu Andromedae, or if she lives in the Spindle Galaxy.
If God wills it, it happens. "Light travel time" has nothing to do with
it. Albert Einstein was certainly a smart man, but in a fistfight with
the Almighty, he loses.
So let's recap what we have established:

  • The Bible is the word of God and contains no errors.
  • The Bible claims that Jesus Christ of Nazareth should have
    returned to this planet during the lifetime of the original Apostles.
  • The only scripturally-acceptable reason to explain Jesus' absence is that He is saving other planets from their sinful burdens.
  • Christ requires 33 years to cleanse a planet of sin.
  • It is the year 2001; Christ ascended to Heaven in the year
    33. This means that there have been 1968 years that He could have
    potentially returned in. (2001 - 33 = 1968.)



And now it's time for us to draw a scientific conclusion from these observations: There are at least 59 intelligent, sinning alien civilizations.
Deriving this number is an elementary matter of dividing the total
number of years of Jesus' absence by the time required to save a
civilization. Dividing 1968 by 33 yields 59.6363, a number which we
must round down to the nearest whole number. This gives us 59, which is
the scripturally-proven minimum number of intelligent civilizations in the Universe.
Now, I admit that this proof is not nearly as thunderous as actually receiving
a message from one of these civilizations. But you don't get much more
authoritative than the Bible. And this proves that you don't need to
waste CPU cycles with SETI@Home to demonstrate that we are not alone.
Let us hope that we one day meet our brothers in Christ, and let us
hope that we can learn to use our worlds together and use them in peace.

taken from Adequacy
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Post by niqui on Mon 09 Jun 2008, 9:07 pm

This still doesn't prove there's ET....something flawed in argument, I think. Let me re-read it tho.
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Post by tabooXchanz on Mon 09 Jun 2008, 10:04 pm

yea it seems flawed to me too
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Post by Taikenzor on Wed 11 Jun 2008, 9:41 pm

Wouldn't the Bible itself, The Word of God, let us know that there are other worlds... God reveals Himself to us in the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, would he want stuff from us? I don't think so... the closer we draw to Him through Jesus, then the ore we know Him. Does that mean that of all the other "sinful planets" out there, are they suppose to have other Bibles out there?

The Bible said we are made in God's image. My church says that we get our emotions from God, thus we are in his image...

Anyway.... yeah... kinda flawed...

If the Bible ain't got it, then all other claims from man's mouth is speculation...
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Post by tabooXchanz on Wed 11 Jun 2008, 9:58 pm

no because dinosaurs weren't in the Bible but they still existed...alot of things like that aren't in there...I think God only put what is relevant to what he is trying to show us in there
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Post by Taikenzor on Wed 11 Jun 2008, 10:52 pm

Well they were creatures of the earth and that was in the Bible, just that we didn't get the time frame...

so I guess that was "In the beginning"...

Yes i agree there is relevant info in the Bible Very Happy that's why it's so AWESOME!!
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Post by tabooXchanz on Wed 11 Jun 2008, 11:32 pm

yea but most of the names were mentioned, especially big ones like that...but yea not only dinosaurs there are other things not in there i'm sure
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Post by Taikenzor on Thu 12 Jun 2008, 4:42 pm

Alright then, how about one day we just sit and look through, we could use the e-sword to make it a bit quicker Very Happy how about that?
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Post by Snyper on Thu 12 Jun 2008, 8:49 pm

tabooXchanz wrote:dinosaurs weren't in the Bible
Check the original 'untransated' book of Genesis (here, you'l find them).

Taikenzor wrote:we could use the e-sword to make it a bit quicker
You and I had this discussion the other day. This tool, isn't to be mis-used for 'bible code-breaking'.

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Post by tabooXchanz on Thu 12 Jun 2008, 9:04 pm

please point me to that verse... not bible code please if that what you mean, I mean something blatantly stating dinosaurs existed
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Post by Snyper on Thu 12 Jun 2008, 9:18 pm

The original book of Genesis, spoke of large lizards (the word started with the letter 'T'). I shall provide the electronic version of this, once I can find a method of translating this (I had it on a Win 95 laptop).

I personally do not believe bible code exists in our modern translation (for obvios reasons). Hence we are in no way doubting anthing stated in the bible.

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Post by Taikenzor on Fri 13 Jun 2008, 10:37 am

I wasn't going to break the Bible code. I was planning on using it along with my Bible. I usually do that, since I can't say I trust he program without going through the whole thing along with the Bible to make sure everything and I mean EVERYTHING corresponds... if what you say is true Very Happy then let's look for those extraterrestrials, I saw a documentary on history channel that "Aliens" gave the egytians the ideas of the pyramid, but your not going to believe everything people say right study
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Post by Snyper on Fri 13 Jun 2008, 10:42 am

Smart lad. Will you be at that prison camp (I meant UTech) today?

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Post by Taikenzor on Fri 13 Jun 2008, 12:20 pm

No not today amigo... how about you? It's finally raining...
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Post by Snyper on Fri 13 Jun 2008, 12:29 pm

I'm still trying to decide on this myself.

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